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- CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
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- Reported by Sue Hares/Merit
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- Minutes of the Network OSI Operations Working Group (NOOP)
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- Agenda
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- o RFC 1139 and ISO Echo
- o Tools RFC
- o Transport MIB
- o IP v7
- o TUBA - Ross Callon (DEC)
- o INTEROP Issues - Richard Collela (NIST)
- o Skinny Stack and X windows over OSI - Jim Quigley HP
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- Notes: At the request of the Chair, these Minutes should be considered
- ``unapproved''.
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- RFC 1139
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- No one thinks the short-term option in RFC 1139 is good. The long-term
- option is the only desired. This long-term ping function was taken into
- ISO in June of 1991, and is going on PDAM ballot. The IESG needs to do
- something with RFC 1139. Since the ISO work is coming a long, and a
- little different than the RFC, the RFC will be re-written to match the
- ISO text. A copy of this will be forwarded to the Working Group.
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- Dave Piscitello, Sue Hares and Cathy Wittbrodt will re-write RFC 1139 to
- match the ISO text.
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- Tools RFC
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- The tools RFC will go through a final revision, and be published in
- August as an Internet Draft. Comments are really needed about the
- variables selected in the end of the text.
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- A long discussion ensued here about whether a few variables are enough
- or the whole MIB. Mostly, the people thought a few variables would be
- enough. Also, a discussion occurred about SNMP over connectionless
- transport. Why don't you just use SNMP over IP to manage your node.
- The problem some people face is that IP paths and CLNP paths do not go
- the same way.
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- Transport MIB
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- A discussion was held to see if this work was useful in the NOOP Working
- Group. The Group generally agreed that they would be interested in
- reviewing the MIB. The following general things were suggested as things
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- to monitor: checksum errors, protocol errors, counts on octets sent.
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- Dave Piscitello will do TCP MIB/Transport MIB comparison. Transport MIB
- will be sent to mailing group.
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- TUBA Presentation
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- Ross Callon (DEC) gave a presentation of his TUBA/TUCAN document.
- Please refer to that document for the full details.
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- INTEROP Spring '92
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- Richard Collela (NIST) and Doug Montgomery (NIST) spent a day at
- hot-stage on IS-IS, and found a couple of bugs. Due to other problems,
- the operational show network used static routing and cisco IGRP-OSI
- routing. The OSI connectivity to the rest of the world was stable.
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- Also, one evening, IS-IS was brought up on all the show floor as a trial
- and went reasonably smoothly.
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- The demos were: NIST routing Lab and Infrastructure. The NIST routing
- Lab had 7 vendor implementations if IS-IS with a network monitor showing
- the topology. The equipment was configured in 4 L1 areas and connected
- to the show network.
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- The Infrastructure demonstration had 8 sites in US, and 8 sites in
- Europe. The network monitor station showing End system connectivity and
- status. The tools used on the Infrastructure network monitor were:
- clnp ping, clnp trace, and FTAM to remote sites.
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- The October '92 INTEROP has no spot for an InfraStructure demonstration.
- IS-IS may be operational on the show network The Spring '93 INTEROP will
- have an OSI Technology Showcase.
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- Skinny Stack and OSI Presentation
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- Jim Quigley (HP) gave an excellent presentation of what the OSI
- applications need as upper layers. In fact most applications only need
- a basic communications. Three types of this basic communication has
- been defined by the OSI Implementor's workshop (NIST OIW) by the upper
- layer Special Interest Group (ULSIG): Migrant (non-OSI such as TCP), X
- windows, and kernel (OSI applications). Prototypes of X windows over
- skinny stack over TP-4 have been produced and demonstrated by ULCC and
- Dr. Peter Furniss. This code will be released into the public domain.
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- Watch for x-windows over OSI code announcement.
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- Attendees
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- Ed Albrigo ealbrigo@cos.com
- William Barns barns@gateway.mitre.org
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- Ross Callon callon@bigfut.enet.dec.com
- Alan Clegg abc@concert.net
- Marc Cochran mjc@vnet.ibm.com
- Richard Colella colella@osi.ncsl.nist.gov
- John Curran jcurran@bbn.com
- Richard desJardins desjardi@boa.gsfc.nasa.gov
- Tom Easterday tom@cic.net
- Dino Farinacci dino@cisco.com
- Stefan Fassbender stf@easi.net
- Osten Franberg euaokf@eua.ericsson.se
- Joan Goldstein j_goldstein@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
- Susan Hares skh@merit.edu
- Paulina Knibbe knibbe@cisco.com
- Mark Knopper mak@merit.edu
- Walter Lazear lazear@gateway.mitre.org
- Bill Manning bmanning@rice.edu
- J. Scott Marcus smarcus@bbn.com
- Dennis Morris morrisd@imo-uvax.disa.mil
- Brad Passwaters bjp@sura.net
- David Piscitello dave@sabre.bellcore.com
- Lars Poulsen lars@cmc.com
- James Quigley Jim_Quigley%YD@hp6600.desk.hp.com
- David Reiser dsr@codex.prds.cdx.mot.com
- April Richstein abm@tycho.ncsc.mil
- Erik Sherk sherk@sura.net
- William Warner warner@ohio.gov
- Luanne Waul luanne@wwtc.timeplex.com
- Linda Winkler lwinkler@anl.gov
- Steven Winnett swinnett@bbn.com
- Cathy Wittbrodt cjw@nersc.gov
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